An historically based mod idea for a ship upgrade.

[bryce777]

Superfrigates. At a certain period of time the US developed a different structure for their ship hulls. This was vasically angled support ribs instead of straight up and down ones. This provided much greater strength and allowed ships to carry twice the guns without any reduction in turning speed or sail speed.

It would be a cool option to have, though it might be a tad unbalanced and it is definitely an anachronism.

[Captain Seavey]

Well...historically speaking, if the US developed in in shouldn't be in the 17th century (as is the game). Don't know if that would be modable anyway.

[bryce777]

true, but the idea of it is pretty cool...imagine trying to take on henry morgan in a sloop if he has 96 guns....

[TheDS]

Try the LARGE FRIGATE on for size. Or if you're really antsy, the ship of the line, if you can find one.
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[Kiffer]

Superfrigates only came along about 1780-1800. That was when George Washington commissioned the building of 6 (i think) frigates into the US Navy. The USS Constitution, which still exists and is the oldest ship in the US Navy, was one of those. During the war with England she totally destroyed an English ship, and it was reported that to the shock of the English seamen some the cannon shots actually bounced off the Constitution's sides. Something about her having copper trimmings and stuff.

[limbaugh]

The year is 1812 and the United States is at war. Like the war of our recent past, the subject of conversation around the world was American military technology. The focus of attention at that time, however, was on America's forty-four gun "super" frigates. During the first eight months of 1812 these American 44 gun frigates had, in battles fought on the high seas with frigates of the English navy, overcome those English frigates in each of the three ship to ship actions fought between them. To understand the scope of this accomplishment and why it caught even the attention of the Emperor Bonaparte, a brief understanding of naval power in 1812 is required.
The British navy in 1812 was made up of 191 ships of the line, 245 frigates of 50 guns or more and numerous other smaller warships giving it over 860 ships altogether. (Another 56 ships were in the process of construction including three 120 gun ships of the line). The English navy time and again during the preceding twenty years had humbled the navies of France, Spain, Denmark, Turkey, Algeria, Russia and Holland. In the twenty years preceding 1812 the ships of his majesty's navy had fought in over 200 single ship to ship engagements and lost in but five. The last time an English ship had lost a ship to ship action had been seven years earlier when in 1805 the French Milan had bested the HMS Cleopatra. One consequence of this seemingly unending line of victories was that by 1812 over 170 ships on the English roll were ships captured during combat. (This total included 96 French, 39 Danish and 18 Spanish ships) English naval victories had come to be expected by captains and sailors of not only of the Brtish navy but those of the ships which they fought. That attitude was rudely shaken in 1812 when the HMS Guerre (3 was destroyed by the USS Constitution (44), the HMS Macedon (49) captured by the USS United States (44) and the HMS Java (44) taken by the USS Constitution.
The navy of the United States in 1812 consisted of some 50 ships. A congressional committee in early 1812 had determined that a fleet of 12 ships of the line and 20 frigates would be large enough to protect the U.S. because of how thinly spread the English fleet was stretched blockading France. Ships of the line were reserved for the major military and economic powers, however, and something Congress decided the United States could not afford. *see note1
The largest ships in the U.S. fleet in 1812 were the 44 gun frigates, the Constitution, United States and President. Launched between 1798 and 1800 these three ships were built principally to protect U.S. commerce from the Barbary pirates. Because of the threat presented by the Barbary states, the United States' Congress voted in 1794 to build four 44 gun and two 38 gun frigates. (That number was decided on the fact that the Portuguese had adequately blockaded the Barbary states with three ships of the line)


The fulll article can be found here:

http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5443/supfrig.htm

[bigchief]

[limbaugh]

i agree.. when you play a 1660 scenario for example, you can still run into blackbeard even thou he still would be a toddler or not even born

[TheDS]

Because in the minds of many, there is a big difference between artistic liscense and just plain ridiculous. I know that sounds like I'm biting your head off, but rest assured that I am only trying to point something out to you that you are missing, not to make you feel bad.
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[bryce777]