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HatterasJack
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:13 am    Post subject: Beginning ships by Era and Nation (renamed topic) Reply with quote

Everytime I start a new game, it's almost always with a sloop. One time I started and the game gave me a brigantine. One other time, a brig of war. I just started a new game and this time I got a pinnace. I've been playing for , like, three years now religiously, and this "starting ship" difference has only happened these three times. So my question is:
Do you always start with a sloop and this was just a freak thing? We all know strange things sometimes happen during the game. One time I catured a French Large Frigate that was an escourt to a Spanish Treasure Gallion, and I had an attractive daughter give me a lost city map.

This is no big dilema, I was just curious......
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your initial ship varies, depending on what era and nation you choose. In 1660 you always get a sloop, but in other eras you can get a wide variety of starting ships. Here is a complete table of starting forces by era and nation.
Code:

   Nation    Ship        Crew   Gold   Food   Cannon

1600
   Dutch     Fluyt         20   1,000   14    12
   English   Merchantman   50   250   12-13   12
   French    Sloop         40   100   13       8
   Spanish   Pinnace       20   500   14       8

1620
   Dutch     Brig          50    10   12-13   8
   English   Brigantine    40    10   13     10
   French    Barque        40   100   13     10
   Spanish   Pinnace       20   500   14      8

1640
   Dutch     Brigantine    40    10   13     10
   English   Sloop         40   100   13      8
   French    Pinnace       20   500   14      8
   Spanish   Mail Runner   30   250   13-14   8

1660
   Dutch     Sloop         40   100   13      8
   English   Sloop         40   100   13      8
   French    Sloop         40   100   13      8
   Spanish   Sloop         40   100   13      8

1680
   Dutch     Sloop of War   40   10   13      10
   English   Sloop of War   50   10   12-13    8
   French    Brigantine     50   10   12-13    8
   Spanish   Fast Galleon   50   10   12-13   16

Wherever there are two different numbers for food, the higher number applies when playing at higher difficulty levels.

This is one of several tables I've put together for my own use. I suppose I should format them all and upload them for the whole Pirates community.
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Captain Mars
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen that table, or one very much like it, elsewhere. It's how I knew starting as Spanish in 1640 would net me a mail runner. The Ill Wind has been terrorizing the Spanish Main ever since!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Mars wrote:
I've seen that table, or one very much like it, elsewhere.

Yes, I have posted this table before. But it was buried several pages deep in a long thread that was mostly on a different topic, so I decided to re-post it here.
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Captain Mars
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, no criticism intended. I meant to express my appreciation of the info provided. It came in handy.
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