Relationship of gold to Wealth points

fleetp · Boatswain Posts: 3740 **36163 Gold** -

As we all know, the game has a maximum of 24 wealth points, and that getting wealth points gets harder (more gold required) the higher you go.
Here's a graph I made showing the relationship (I had no lands granted to me), the money can from trading).

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/fc802f72-0ddd-4d7e-a9f5-e35e9dc1cdac/ddu2b6c-2ba3f716-2152-4798-87cb-a2a4310d70ee.jpg/v1/fill/w_1280,h_854,q_75,strp/pirates_gold_vs_wealth_by_fleetp_ddu2b6c-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9ODU0IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvZmM4MDJmNzItMGRkZC00ZDdlLWE5ZjUtZTM1ZTlkYzFjZGFjXC9kZHUyYjZjLTJiYTNmNzE2LTIxNTItNDc5OC04N2NiLWEyYTQzMTBkNzBlZS5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.JljP0E3z8xDdGsA24iO8roa_l5ZzcElDzxUZT8QB-Sw

Here's the break-down (in intervals of 4)

1015 gold gives one wealth point
10014 gold gives four wealth points
36264 gold gives eight wealth points
86448 gold gives twelve wealth points
141503 gold gives sixteen wealth points
221586 gold gives twenty wealth points
321674 gold gives twenty-four wealth points

These are not 'exact' numbers; you might get the four wealth points at a lower number of gold pieces.

If I can figure out a way to do it, I'll see what I can find out about the effect of land grants on wealth points.

Pirate · Helmsman Posts: 5589 **109759 Gold** -

Contrary to popular belief. A large amount of money a pirate crew made was through trading stolen goods like sugar, spices etc. merchant ships were popular targets. Hollywood only shows pirates with chests of gold but in reality most large sums of money was transported under heavy Naval guard or in other words more than a sloop full of cutthroats could handle. Merchant ships were designed to minimize crew and hold tons of cargo hence fewer crewman to pay and larger amount of goods equals more money. Unfortunately it made good pirate bait as well.

corsair91 · Sailing Master Posts: 8266 **208044 Gold** -

FAQ/Strategy Guide by Sashanan
Version: 1.5 | Updated: 05/12/08
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/915017-sid-meiers-pirates/faqs/34143

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[7.7] FAME POINTS
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Fame points are the closest thing you have to a score in Pirates; a numerical
representation of the success of your exploits. You earn points in specific
categories up to a certain maximum. About half of these points come from how
wealthy you've managed to become and what ranks you have reached with the
various nations. The rest comes from completion of the game's various quests.
A "perfect" game, in which you get the maximum ranks, enough wealth to qualify
for all wealth points and full completion of all side quests, would earn you
the maximum of 126 fame points. On the personal status screen, fame points are
referred to as 'achievement points' instead, but it's the same thing.

Fame points are divided into the following categories:

WEALTH (24)
Fame points for wealth are earned based on how much land you've been granted,
and how many gold pieces you've managed to put away for yourself. Land grants
are given in addition to promotions if you've done particularly well, and as
alternatives to promotions once you have achieved the rank of Duke with any
country. They come in units of 50 acres. Gold flows into your pocket whenever
you divide up the plunder at the end of an expedition; you get a set percentage
of the total loot based on the difficulty level you're playing, unrelated to
how many men your loot is divided amongst.

I have yet to determine the formula for wealth, but I've found the following to
be true:

- The first wealth points are easier to get than the last ones; the difference
between the 23rd and 24th point is much, much greater than the requirement for
the first point.

- Land is much more valuable than gold, so 10000 acres of land equals more
wealth than 10000 gold pieces. In a typical game, nearly all of your wealth
score tends to come from land grants. This is especially true on lower
difficulty levels where your share of the loot is so small. On Swashbuckler
itâ€™s more even because you get to keep half of the gold when you divide up the
plunder.

- About 30000 acres of land appears to be enough for 24 wealth points
regardless of how much gold you have brought in.

Roland · Helmsman Posts: 4085 **22541 Gold** -

fleetp · Boatswain Posts: 3740 **36163 Gold** -

Thanks for the posts!
If I don't divide the plunder, only the lad grants will count toward wealth points. I suspect when I do a chart, the 'land grants' curve will probably be close to the shape of the 'gold only' curve.

Salty Dog · Sailing Master Posts: 10060 **191991 Gold** -

I find that when I play a normal game and find all four lost cities, it takes about 16,000 acres of land to get 24 wealth points. This is at Rogue level. Land is super important.

fleetp · Boatswain Posts: 3740 **36163 Gold** -

Salty Dog · Sailing Master Posts: 10060 **191991 Gold** -

It was before diving the plunder. I had about 600K gold and 16000 acres of land and it gave me 24 wealth points.

Pirate · Helmsman Posts: 5589 **109759 Gold** -

If the game was realistic then once you married the Governorâ€™s daughter your wealth points go to her and your fame and wealth will be shit out of luck.

fleetp · Boatswain Posts: 3740 **36163 Gold** -

Now I'm wondering...does it take more gold and land to get 26 wealth points for 'harder' difficulty levels (as in more land and gold needed when playing at 'Rogue' difficulty versus playing at 'Apprentice' difficulty)?

Pirate · Helmsman Posts: 5589 **109759 Gold** -

I would think the same but the difficulty level itself makes it harder. There is a great deal of difference between Swashbuckler and beginning modes but in all itâ€™s largely the same game with the same goals.

Roland · Helmsman Posts: 4085 **22541 Gold** -

On the contrary, it is easier at higher difficulty levels because the captain's share of the loot is greater.

Pirate · Helmsman Posts: 5589 **109759 Gold** -

Yes Roland is right about that. I remember now but once again the game itself is harder so getting far enough in good health is a challenge.

fleetp · Boatswain Posts: 3740 **36163 Gold** -

Here's my chart comparing Wealth Points to Acres of land

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/fc802f72-0ddd-4d7e-a9f5-e35e9dc1cdac/ddv2k9e-cb861346-8600-4835-b023-bac0c2d3335c.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ZjODAyZjcyLTBkZGQtNGQ3ZS1hOWY1LWUzNWU5ZGMxY2RhY1wvZGR2Mms5ZS1jYjg2MTM0Ni04NjAwLTQ4MzUtYjAyMy1iYWMwYzJkMzMzNWMuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.UR8NAhZ4LSKQwVCch_b6x_mmqYiCYl2sSoqmOgueMbw

The data is below
200 acres = 1 wealth point
450 acres = 2 wealth points (I'm not going to retype the words, you get the idea)
800 = 3
I missed the data point for 4 Wealth points
1700 = 5
2500 = 6
3300 = 7
3750 = 8
4500 = 9
5550 = 10
6650 = 11
8050 = 12
10150 = 13
10600 = 14
12050 = 15
14000 = 16
15450 = 17
17750 = 18
19050 = 19
21100 = 20
23450 = 21
26450 = 22
27750 = 23
30050 = 24

Pirate · Helmsman Posts: 5589 **109759 Gold** -

Relation to gold to wealth points for real pirates after partying all night and having fun with the wenchâ€™s

https://images.app.goo.gl/FVZLSzFqAbkQyrH48