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sparticus
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Edge wrote:
sparticus wrote:
In the Theme of 2 answers :

What is Flanders Fields ?


The battle/burial fields in Belgium in WWI.


Yes - that is 1 correct answer

The other is a Poem - though technically it is called In Flanders Fields.

I will give it to you Rusty Edge - your turn...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I knew the poem.... but I didn't understand the question.

Now I do.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question-

The British "Sea Service Pistol" was a flintlock produced for over 85 years, and used for more.

What particular feature distinguished this model from other pistols of the period ( early 1700s- early 1800s ) ?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Edge wrote:
Question-

The British "Sea Service Pistol" was a flintlock produced for over 85 years, and used for more.

What particular feature distinguished this model from other pistols of the period ( early 1700s- early 1800s ) ?


Just a stupid guess - It was water proof ?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it have a small bayonet attached to it?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No and no.

Hint-the distinguishing feature was on the left side.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Edge wrote:
Hint-the distinguishing feature was on the left side.

Answer:
Safety switch.

Not sure it's called that (English isn't my native language).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a revolving-barrel system where it became a two-shot handgun?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the 7-barreled gun, made famous in the Richard Sharpe books did fire pistol balls, all at once, and was called a volley gun. It was for naval use, but was a failed experiment due to it's considerable weight and excessive recoil.

Oh! You mean revolving barrels Derringer style. That worked better once there were breech loaded pistols with cartridge ammunition.

Pistols with blades extending past the barrel are awkward if not dangerous to reload. Imagine packing the powder and bullet with the little ramrod...

They got more serious about the idea in the mid 1800s with percussion lock pistols, but abandoned it. I think the adoption of the revolver a few years later solved the problem.

from Wikipedia-
Pistol swords were not widely used and became uncommon relatively quickly, due to their expense and because instead of getting two weapons in one, one got a heavy pistol and a heavy, off-balance sword, as shown by the poor performance of the Elgin pistol.[15]


Red Rabbit- We call that switch a "safety". I think they came much later.
( Late 1800s?) Flintlocks were more likely to fail to fire than to go off accidentally.

Sparticus- They wished! Until the invention of brass cartridges, firearms were a long way from being waterproof.

The Sea Service pistol had a rounded brass butt cap, and was intended to be reversed and used as a club after firing, but that's not the key feature.
There was something special on the left side, with no moving parts.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheat mode engaged - a Belt Clip.

This Youtube gives a really good look at one of these guys.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most portraits of the famous pirates show them wearing sashes across their chests with 4 to 7 single-barreled handguns attached to them. They would grab a pistol, shoot it and drop it, then grab another one quickly. It was very common for them to carry a lot of these small handguns into battle.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salty Dog wrote:
Most portraits of the famous pirates show them wearing sashes across their chests with 4 to 7 single-barreled handguns attached to them. They would grab a pistol, shoot it and drop it, then grab another one quickly. It was very common for them to carry a lot of these small handguns into battle.

I had always wondered what happened to my brace of pistols after I fired both weapons at an opposing captain. Now I know!

This also helps to make sense of why they altered the design of this weapon in later years, reducing the barrel from 12" to 9". The shorter barrel would not only make for a quicker draw in the heat of battle, but would reduce the weight, which might be a big deal if you are carrying several of them on a single belt or bandolier.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll see if I can find a painting of one of these Pirates for you. The handguns they used were of very small design - very slender and probably small caliber

I don't know if this link works or not. I found a painting of Blackbeard and he has 6 small pistols in his sashes.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/Salty111/edward-teach.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo edward-teach.jpg"/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salty Dog wrote:
I'll see if I can find a painting of one of these Pirates for you. The handguns they used were of very small design - very slender and probably small caliber

I don't know if this link works or not. I found a painting of Blackbeard and he has 6 small pistols in his sashes.



It worked - but I fixed it so that it works better Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salty Dog wrote:
Most portraits of the famous pirates show them wearing sashes across their chests with 4 to 7 single-barreled handguns attached to them. They would grab a pistol, shoot it and drop it, then grab another one quickly. It was very common for them to carry a lot of these small handguns into battle.


Hmm ...

I suspect that it was very common for them to scare the pants off of people, and unusual for them to actually go into battle with or without handguns. I gather that most pirates were big on intimidating people who didn't dare fight back.
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